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Post by Kizzume on Nov 26, 2007 3:21:03 GMT -5
Without having to give teachers special training for several years in those methods, how can we have anything that can actually be implemented? That's the issue I'm having a hard time with. Sure there are other methods, and I"m sure that most of them are better than hitting, but there's no way we can change all the teachers out there at once. There are some things we can change and they can adjust, but those changes have to be limited.
Kids have been getting more and more violent. If hitting doesn't work, and kids used to be less violent, what's wrong with this picture?
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Post by technocrat on Nov 26, 2007 3:27:32 GMT -5
Teachers already should be having classes in behavioural management in their training programmes. I did. There are some classes which could actually be eliminated from the curriculum and replaced with a more intense management course in ABA or Behaviourism. It would be more useful than some of the other classes.
I don't even know if kids are actually getting "more violent." Most violence occurs in the urban ghetto anyway, not in SunnyDale High, and people often look back at the "good old days" that never really existed. I think it's a lot of rose-coloured lense syndrome. I will try to find the journals for you, but research really does indicate that punishment, especially physical punishment, has limited learning value.
One problem is perhaps that the teacher training programmes just aren't good enough and we need to make them better. I remember in some of my classes there were some duplicate, stupid classes that could have been replaced with something more useful.
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Post by Kizzume on Nov 26, 2007 16:49:53 GMT -5
The gangster mentality has become the biggest peer pressure element. That was not the case 20 years ago.
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