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Post by debateman on Nov 14, 2007 23:27:47 GMT -5
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Post by Kizzume on Nov 15, 2007 3:49:32 GMT -5
I think everything that Hillary Clinton says about anything is simply to get votes. She will keep her promises to the gay community just as good as her husband did.
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Post by treehugger on Nov 15, 2007 21:16:01 GMT -5
debateman, it is my belief that there's only one candidate out there who truly supports the GLBT community. That candidate would be Dennis Kucinich, not Hillary. Hillary supports civil unions for gay and lesbian couples but not full marriage rights. There is a huge difference, protection-wise, between civil union and civil marriage. Here are a link that details all the differences: www.glad.org/rights/Marriage_v_CU_chart.pdfIn my opinion, Hillary is pandering to the right by endorsing civil unions rather than marriage equality. After all, we already tried the "separate but equal" thing a few decades ago. As I recall, it didn't go over all that well.
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Post by Kizzume on Nov 15, 2007 21:18:09 GMT -5
That is correct. Kucinich IS the only one, sad but true.
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Post by debateman on Nov 15, 2007 21:20:30 GMT -5
That is correct. Kucinich IS the only one, sad but true. What about Gravel?
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Post by treehugger on Nov 15, 2007 21:22:30 GMT -5
That is correct. Kucinich IS the only one, sad but true. What about Gravel? I believe Gravel supports full marriage rights, too. If so, I stand corrected, debateman. Let me go check to make sure.....
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Post by treehugger on Nov 15, 2007 21:24:55 GMT -5
I just checked - you were right, debateman. Two candidates support marriage equality: Kucinich and Gravel.
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Post by debateman on Nov 15, 2007 21:25:54 GMT -5
I just checked - you were right, debateman. Two candidates support marriage equality: Kucinich and Gravel. I like Gravel better than Kucinich... I can't tell you why, but Dennis just creeps me out.
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Post by Kizzume on Nov 15, 2007 21:40:53 GMT -5
That's good to know. The don't ask don't tell thing needs to go.
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Post by debateman on Nov 15, 2007 21:47:03 GMT -5
That's good to know. The don't ask don't tell thing needs to go. I was going to join the Navy until I saw a really hot sailor in uniform. Then I asked and told... *sigh*
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Post by Hackfest on Nov 15, 2007 22:14:27 GMT -5
Hillary pandering to the Right is useless, be sure of that.
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Post by debateman on Nov 15, 2007 22:17:15 GMT -5
Hillary pandering to the Right is useless, be sure of that. Well her pandering on the left isn't working so hot in my opinion. As a registered Democrat, I'm going to be voting for the most conservative out of the bunch. Governor Richardson...
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Post by jq on Nov 15, 2007 22:52:00 GMT -5
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